It's been a whole day since Mazda released the pricing+trim details for the 2019 mazda 3 and you haven't ranted about it yet?

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 01/24/2019 at 11:05 • Filed to: 2019 mazda 3, mazda 3, 2019 mazda mazda3, mazda mazda3, mazda3, mazda

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Well now’s your chance. Here are the key highlights:

MSRP does not include $895 for destination and handling ($940 in Alaska), taxes, title or additional fees. Dealers set actual sale prices.

-The Mazda3 is more expensive; the new sedan costs $2,905 more than a 2018 model, while the hatchback commands an additional $4,255 over its predecessor. B ut every engine is the 2.5 and lots more standard equipment.

-New MT option only available on FWD, premium package hatchback at $27,900

-MT costs the same as the AT-AWD starts at $24,845 for sedan add $1000 for hatch

- Some publications say AWD+MT+ Skyactive-X 2.0 may come in future, 2020 perhaps but no such combo today

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Would you take one over a Corolla hatch? Civic Hatch or the Subaru Impreza?

random001 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:04

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They released it, but we can’t see the pricing, so we’re not ranting about it.

punkgoose17 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:04

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I only saw the prices today. I couldn’t afford one anyway. If I could I’d buy the Hyundai Elantra GT now instead of the Mazda 3.

meh

interstate366, now In The Industry > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:05

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I would buy a Civic hatch over the 3 hatch, but I would buy a 3 sedan over a (non-Si)  Civic sedan. I’m firmly in the hate side of the 3 hatch’s looks.

nerd_racing > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:06

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This is one vehicle I will have to see in person before I decide how I feel about the aesthetics. I would definitely go hatchback as I need the functionality, but much like my current Mazda3 hatch, it has some angles I absolutely love and some angles I cringe. I wish I could get the KODO Mazda2 hatch in all honesty, but I don’t have very good contacts in Puerto Rico that can help me get one.  

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > random001 01/24/2019 at 11:07

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Wut ? N ot getting it. They released US prices yesterday and Canada prices few days back.

random001 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:07

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When you SEE what I did....

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > punkgoose17 01/24/2019 at 11:08

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You can get a 201HP Elantra GT sport for cheap compared to the competition. There’s also an N line version now

Pricing for the manual N Line starts at $24,185, and $25,285 for the dual-clutch, including destination.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:09

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I want to like it, as Mazdas really are nice cars to drive. But I have some serious reservations about that C pillar. My wife and I will sometimes swap cars. And, well, she has already bounced my Civic off of stuff when it has decent visibility (and cameras!). I can’t imagine how many things would be hit with that giant blind spot.

As to would I take it over the Corolla, Civic or Impreza? Maybe.

The Corolla is okay, but Toyota’s refusal to include Android Auto is a dealbreaker for me. The Impreza need more engine. I like the new Civic.

But honestly, the one I’m looking forward to is the 2020 (although probably 2021 in the US) Honda Fit.  I’ll probably be looking to get rid of my current car around that time, and I really hope I can find a comfortable driving position in the next Fit.  I’d own one now, but I just couldn’t get comfy in the current gen.  

Maxima Speed > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:10

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I was literally just ranting about this to my brother. But I wasn’t even close to the same level of outrage as I am now because I had my numbers wrong. A car that is being sold to Canadians for way, way, less. They are jacking up prices for the US market to a level that is unacceptable. Also I had every intention of purchasing one if the price was reasonable  but the unmitigated gall of demanding we pay more for the manual for a premium trim whether or not we want it is ridiculous. Its Porsche levels of insanity.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:10

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I dunno... a new loaded Corolla XSE MT is less than $24k at some lots. The Mazda3 equivalent is shown as $28,395...

How much is the Elantra GT Sport?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/24/2019 at 11:12

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Even with the N line package it’s pretty affordable  https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/detroit-auto-show/a25860245/hyundai-elantra-gt-n-line-2019-photos-price-specs/

For Sweden > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:12

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I don’t talk about what I do in the bedroom

Nibby > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:14

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why would anyone buy this over a 1994 hyundai excel?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > For Sweden 01/24/2019 at 11:14

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The Ghost of Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:18

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“Base select”, what a stupid name for a trim level

interstate366, now In The Industry > Nibby 01/24/2019 at 11:19

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They like blind spots the size of Delaware.

fintail > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:19

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The hatchback C-pillar really irks me, but as I wasn’t thinking of buying one anyway, oh well.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Maxima Speed 01/24/2019 at 11:19

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So playing the Devil’s Advocate here- isn’t the general complaint that manufactures relegate manuals to the lowest budget trims (see Mazda6, Cx5), now they’ve put it in a higher level trim which will obviously raise the price along with the total base price increase as well. AWD+ manual unavailability complaint I completely understand. So is the expectation is that they have to release a manual version in every trim and spend time and money for testing etc. and dealer inventory? So damn if they do, damn if they don’t?

camarov6rs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:22

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For me the Skyactiv-X and the AWD is the draw. If I was looking at a FWD 2.5 Mazda3 in any configuration I’d probably be going with an Elantra GT N-line or Civic. But I’d take an  AWD 3 over an Impreza any day and if they allow AWD with the new engine it would be hard to pick something else if there aren’t any major flaws.

Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/24/2019 at 11:23

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same

Milky > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:26

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For its class, I’d get the Mazda for sure.

Also I am not slightly biased.  

interstate366, now In The Industry > Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No 01/24/2019 at 11:26

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That said, if my budget were 25k and I were looking to buy new I’d probably get an Si sedan. I even looked for one, but couldn’t find one in a color I liked within 250 miles. I ended up going used.

Maxima Speed > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:27

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Oh, I didn’t realize that was a common complaint. I guess I always assumed that enthusiasts generally went for the lower trim options because people are always complaining about price on the FP. I generally prefer lower trims from a price perspective and because they tend to be more basic. I like basic cars. What I don't like though is when a 4 cylinder variant comes in a manual and the 6 cylinder variant of a car does not.

Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/24/2019 at 11:27

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as much as i tried i couldnt get behind the new Si

interstate366, now In The Industry > Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No 01/24/2019 at 11:34

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I ended up with a low-mileage AWD TL. I couldn’t be happier with it, although I know a lot of people are put off by the beak.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:35

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I guess I’d rather have that.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:43

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When you (can’t) SEE(C) ....*cough- pillar* what Because Racecar did...

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:43

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I’m more of a sedan guy, and yes I’d “take one over a Corolla hatch? Civic Hatch or the Subaru Imprez.”

B ut I’m biased since I’ve been driving a Mazda 3 since 2009.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > random001 01/24/2019 at 11:44

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You're a fucking genius

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/24/2019 at 11:44

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*Africa

t0ast > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 11:47

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This falls within one of the segments I’m currently mulling over for my next car purchase. One of my more firm requirements is Manual and either AWD or LSD’d FWD/RWD, so this unfortunately is a non-starter. I’m glad that they offer up the manual on the Premium trim, but otherwise it’s extremely difficult to justify over a similarly-priced GTI or spending $4k less (!) on a Civic Si.

random001 > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 01/24/2019 at 11:55

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Heh!

dogisbadob > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 12:05

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Way overpriced. Mazda doesn’t have the clout to charge more than Toyota and Honda. And it still isn’ t even out yet. They should just sell it as a 2020 model. We’re already almost halfway thru the 2019 model year. (You’re allowed to sell a car made in January 1, 2019 as a 2020)

Fugly and poor visibility. They should’ve stuck to using the same doors on the the sedan and hatchback like they did with the outgoing 3.

The most interesting thing is that Mazda is only offering the manual on the top model instead of only the base model. This is a reversal of course over what they’re doing now with the outgoing 3 (and 6). It also means that a manual 3 will cost more than a manual 6.

dogisbadob > Nibby 01/24/2019 at 12:07

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in case the Excel doesn’t have enough rust for their liking

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 01/24/2019 at 12:09

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Thank you for explaining the joke

... because I was seriously scratching my head there.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/24/2019 at 12:10

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I saw two TLs with body-colored beaks (one back, one silver). I think it works, but I don’t mind the beak as is.

punkgoose17 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 13:00

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I know it is great! Especially comparing it to a $28k Mazda.

punkgoose17 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 13:09

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That is what was great about the Mazda 3. It was available on all 3 trims for both the sedan and the hatch. It went from 6 options to 1 option. Seeing that they practically dropped the 2018 base equivalent, 4 options would be great.

Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/24/2019 at 14:22

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Honestly, another car i cannot stand, and not just the beak, the whole design overall (sorry)

interstate366, now In The Industry > Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No 01/24/2019 at 15:49

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Not to sound overly blunt, but it’s your loss. I’m used to it though, so NBD.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/24/2019 at 16:34

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I don’t either, but I’ve thought about color-matching it. Just don’t have the time.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/24/2019 at 16:42

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I’d rank em Imprezza, Civic, Corolla, Mazda3. That hatch is fugly as shit.

bob and john > Maxima Speed 01/24/2019 at 16:42

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I mean....have  you seen some of your prices compared to ours? we can have one times to time, thank you very much.